[Vision2020] CLINTON SAYS BUSH MISTAKE UNDERSTANDABLE
Tim Lohrmann
timlohr@yahoo.com
Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:31:20 -0700 (PDT)
Donovan,
But you're missing the point of this post. It
wasn't to rehash whether Clinton was a good guy or
not. It was WHY IS HE APOLOGIZING FOR BUSH? Why is he
directly contradicting what you and many other critics
are saying about W?
All the rest of the national Democrats look on this
latest Uranium thing as their chance to pounce.
Any ideas?
TL
--- Donovan Arnold <donovanarnold@hotmail.com> wrote:
> While I did not like Clinton as a person, or shall I
> say his lack of being
> one, I would gladly have Clinton again over this war
> mongering,
> environmentially damaging, lying, murdering, economy
> destroying president
> that we have now. I don't care about campaign
> finance reform or adultry, or
> anything else of that matter. I care about the
> welfare of people, the
> environment, and the economy. That is about it. We
> are worse off then we
> were 4 years ago, regardless of what we personally
> think about the
> personalities of Clinton of Bush.
>
> Donovan J Arnold
>
>
> >From: Tim Lohrmann <timlohr@yahoo.com>
> >To: Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846@hotmail.com>
> >CC: vision2020@moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] CLINTON SAYS BUSH MISTAKE
> UNDERSTANDABLE
> >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:38:29 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Carl,
> > I'm sorry if I implied all Democrats were
> >Clintonistas. The "/" I put between the terms
> "Loyal
> >Democrats" and "Clintonista" were meant to show
> that
> >these were two different clans. I should have used
> the
> >term "and" instead of the "/" to make myself
> clearer.
> >(Does this remind you of Clinton's statement that
> "it
> >depends on what the meaning of "is" is?)
> > But you can't deny that many Loyal Demos were
> the
> >first to support and defend ole Billy boy and
> algore
> >during their many ethically challenged fundraising
> and
> >legal adventures.
> > Is it time now for Democrats to heave him
> overboard
> >and "distance" themselves from him or maybe even
> >(gasp) "move on" from the Clinton era?
> > TL
> >
> >
> >--- Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Bill Clinton made the comment during an 80th
> > > birthday celebration for his
> > > old rival Bob Dole. It may well have been made
> in
> > > the spirit of "reaching
> > > out". Are all Democrats or independents who
> voted
> > > for Bill Clinton
> > > "Clintonistas"? I voted for him twice, and also
> > > disagreed with some of his
> > > actions while in the White House. I disagree
> with
> > > his defense of Bush now.
> > > But, as the quote goes, "I don't belong to any
> > > organized party, I'm a
> > > Democrat." To suggest that we all somehow march
> in
> > > lockstep with one
> > > another is like saying that all conservatives
> adhere
> > > to the rantings of Ann
> > > Coulter.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Carl Westberg Jr.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Tim Lohrmann <timlohr@yahoo.com>
> > > >To: vision2020@moscow.com
> > > >Subject: [Vision2020] CLINTON SAYS BUSH MISTAKE
> > > UNDERSTANDABLE
> > > >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:41:11 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >Visionaries,
> > > > How do all you loyal Democrat/Clintonistas
> > > explain
> > > >ole Bill's taking up for Dub?
> > > > Think he's trying to embarrass some of the
> > > Democrat
> > > >Pres. candidates he doesn't like? Why would he
> do
> > > >that? Is he trying to make sure that W is
> > > re-elected
> > > >so his wife won't have a sittind Democrat
> obstacle
> > > >when she runs in '08?
> > > > How do you analyze?
> > > > TL
> > > >
> > > >CLINTON SAYS BUSH'S URANIUM MISTAKE IS
> > > UNDERSTANDABLE
> > > >Copyright İ 2003 Nando Media
> > > >Copyright İ 2003 AP Online
> > > >
> > > >The Associated Press
> > > >WASHINGTON (July 22, 7:07 p.m. ADT) - President
> > > Bush's
> > > >erroneous reference to an Iraqi-Africa uranium
> link
> > > >was understandable, former President Clinton
> said
> > > >Tuesday, in part because Saddam Hussein's
> regime
> > > had
> > > >not accounted for some weapons by the time
> Clinton
> > > >ended his term in 2001.
> > > >Clinton's comments reinforce one of the pillars
> of
> > > >Bush's defense of the war in Iraq - that his
> > > >Democratic predecessor was never satisfied that
> > > Saddam
> > > >had rid himself of weapons of mass destruction.
> > > >
> > > >"When I left office, there was a substantial
> amount
> > > of
> > > >biological and chemical material unaccounted
> for,"
> > > >Clinton said on CNN's "Larry King Live."
> > > >
> > > >Clinton said he never found out whether a
> > > U.S.-British
> > > >bombing campaign he ordered in 1998 ended
> Saddam's
> > > >capability of producing chemical and biological
> > > >weapons. "We might have gotten it all, we might
> > > have
> > > >gotten half of it, we might have gotten none of
> > > it,"
> > > >he said.
> > > >
> > > >In his State of the Union speech in February
> > > >justifying the planned war in Iraq, Bush
> referred
> > > to
> > > >British intelligence reports that Saddam had
> tried
> > > to
> > > >purchase uranium for nuclear weapons
> production.
> > > His
> > > >administration says it now believes those
> reports
> > > were
> > > >based in part on forged documents.
> > > >
> > > >Clinton confined his remarks to biological and
> > > >chemical weapons, and did not say whether he
> would
> > > >consider credible any report that Saddam had
> wanted
> > > to
> > > >build a nuclear weapons program.
> > > >
> > > >Nonetheless, he suggested that Bush's mistake
> was
> > > par
> > > >for the course - and that it was time to move
> on
> > > now
> > > >that Bush had acknowledged the error.
> > > >
> > > >"You know, everybody makes mistakes when they
> are
> > > >president," he said. "I mean, you can't make as
> > > many
> > > >calls as you have to without messing up once in
> a
> > > >while. The thing we ought to be focused on is
> what
> > > is
> > > >the right thing to do now."
> > > >
> > > >Clinton said ending tensions in Iraq should be
> the
> > > >priority now - another echo of the current
> White
> > > >House's talking points. "We should be pulling
> for
> > > >America on this. We should be pulling for the
> > > people
> > > >of Iraq."
> > > >
> > > >Clinton made his remarks as a call-in guest on
> a
> > > >program observing the 80th birthday of Bob
> Dole,
> > > his
> > > >rival for the White House in 1996.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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