[Vision2020] Melynda Huskey Charges John Harrell Falsely With Plagrism

John Harrell johnbharrell@yahoo.com
Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:09:28 -0700 (PDT)


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Wait a second, are you saying the following quotes are not true?
 
QUOTATION: When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I 
calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already.... What are you? You will pass 
on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they 
will know nothing else but this new community.”

ATTRIBUTION: Adolf Hitler (1889–1945), German dictator. speech, Nov. 6, 1933. 
Quoted in William L. Shirer, “Education in the Third Reich,” ch. 8, The Rise 
and Fall of the Third Reich (1959); speaking about the schools and their
indoctrination of the Hilterjugend (Hitler Youth Corps).

It was Adolph Hitler who said, "Let me control the textbooks, and I will 
control the state."

Norman Thomas, Socialist and member of the Civil Liberties Union, boldly 
told the world, "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism, 
but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the 
Socialist program until one day America will be a Socialist nation without 
ever knowing how it happened."

"Give me your four year olds," said Lenin "and in a generation I will build 
a Socialist state."

Lesbian author Patricia Warren, boldly told the gay and lesbian community, 
"It is the FIRST fact of civilization that--whoever captures the kids - owns 
the future."

In his book ‘The Science Of Power’, Benjamin Kidd wrote, "Give us the young. 
-- Give us the young and We will create a new mind and a new Earth in a SINGLE 
generation."

Ross L. Finny, a socialist PhD in one of his books tells us this; "Everything 
depends on passing out the expert opinions of the social scientists to the 
masses of the people; the schools are the only adequate agency for this function."

Lastly, the American Humanist Association understands the importance of 
capturing the children – for they have written: "In order to capture this 
nation, one has to totally remove moral and spiritual values and absolutes from
the thinking of the child. The child has to think that there is no standard of 
right and wrong, that truth is relative, and that diversity is the only absolute 
to be gained."
 
Cheers!
John Harrell


Melynda Huskey <melyndah@wsu.edu> wrote:
John writes:

>I pulled the quotes off of another bulletin board. . . . And so what 
>anyway. If I had found that
>website, I would given the link, because I really don't care who first
>compiled them. So actually Melynda did me a service.

Ah, the old "Well, it's not plagiarism if I steal it from someone who's 
already stolen it" argument--also popular among fraternity men using the 
house files. This is your second strike, John: the Academic Misconduct 
committee would be seeing you if you were my student.

I'd suggest that if you hope to use quotations to bolster an argument, it 
behooves you to collect your own, and to be sure that they are accurate and 
germane. That's how grownups argue.

Of course, if your opinions are acquired in the same way as your 
quotations, perhaps it doesn't matter.

Anybody missing a derivative and unsupported claim? John's got a Lost and 
Found Ideas box you might check.

Melynda Huskey

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<DIV>Wait a second, are you saying the following quotes are not true?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>QUOTATION: When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I <BR>calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already.... What are you? You will pass <BR>on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they <BR>will know nothing else but this new community.”<BR><BR>ATTRIBUTION: Adolf Hitler (1889–1945), German dictator. speech, Nov. 6, 1933. <BR>Quoted in William L. Shirer, “Education in the Third Reich,” ch. 8, The Rise <BR>and Fall of the Third Reich (1959); speaking about the schools and their<BR>indoctrination of the Hilterjugend (Hitler Youth Corps).<BR><BR>It was Adolph Hitler who said, "Let me control the textbooks, and I will <BR>control the state."<BR><BR>Norman Thomas, Socialist and member of the Civil Liberties Union, boldly <BR>told the world, "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism, <BR>but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the <BR>Socialist program until one day America will!
  be a
 Socialist nation without <BR>ever knowing how it happened."<BR><BR>"Give me your four year olds," said Lenin "and in a generation I will build <BR>a Socialist state."<BR><BR>Lesbian author Patricia Warren, boldly told the gay and lesbian community, <BR>"It is the FIRST fact of civilization that--whoever captures the kids - owns <BR>the future."<BR><BR>In his book ‘The Science Of Power’, Benjamin Kidd wrote, "Give us the young. <BR>-- Give us the young and We will create a new mind and a new Earth in a SINGLE <BR>generation."<BR><BR>Ross L. Finny, a socialist PhD in one of his books tells us this; "Everything <BR>depends on passing out the expert opinions of the social scientists to the <BR>masses of the people; the schools are the only adequate agency for this function."<BR><BR>Lastly, the American Humanist Association understands the importance of <BR>capturing the children – for they have written: "In order to capture this <BR>nation, one has to totally remove moral and s!
 piritual
 values and absolutes from<BR>the thinking of the child. The child has to think that there is no standard of <BR>right and wrong, that truth is relative, and that diversity is the only absolute <BR>to be gained."</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Cheers!</DIV>
<DIV>John Harrell</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Melynda Huskey &lt;melyndah@wsu.edu&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">John writes:<BR><BR>&gt;I pulled the quotes off of another bulletin board. . . . And so what <BR>&gt;anyway. If I had found that<BR>&gt;website, I would given the link, because I really don't care who first<BR>&gt;compiled them. So actually Melynda did me a service.<BR><BR>Ah, the old "Well, it's not plagiarism if I steal it from someone who's <BR>already stolen it" argument--also popular among fraternity men using the <BR>house files. This is your second strike, John: the Academic Misconduct <BR>committee would be seeing you if you were my student.<BR><BR>I'd suggest that if you hope to use quotations to bolster an argument, it <BR>behooves you to collect your own, and to be sure that they are accurate and <BR>germane. That's how grownups argue.<BR><BR>Of course, if your opinions are acquired in the same way as your <BR>quotations, perhaps it doesn't matter.<BR><BR>Anybody m!
 issing a
 derivative and unsupported claim? John's got a Lost and <BR>Found Ideas box you might check.<BR><BR>Melynda Huskey<BR><BR>_____________________________________________________<BR>List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>http://www.fsr.net <BR>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯</BLOCKQUOTE><p><hr SIZE=1>
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