[Vision2020] Patriot Act

[David Douglas]

Visionaries:

A more complete quote, sans elipsis, can be found here:

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm  (bottom of page)

For the most part the ommissions don't change the overall thrust, but the 
whole story is better than a quote--ex nihilo.

However, I find this type of posting a fallacious appeal to emotion more 
than anything else.

Just because a wicked man like Goering ate (at least) 3 meals a day doesn't 
mean we should start fasting.  Just because he had a low view of the masses 
and was casual about war, doesn't mean that fighting a war is wrong (didn't 
_America_ fight the Germans in World _War_ II) or that all leaders are 
manipulating the masses.

Is the point that this war is wrong, and that our leaders are budding 
Goerings, and that the masses are simpletons being led along, or what?  
These, and other possible points, may well be true, but simply posting this 
quotation "doesn't make the case".

David Douglas




>From: "Charles Fulford" <taze_fulford@hotmail.com>
>To: "Brad Neuman" <bradneuman@moscow.com>,   "'Carl Westberg'" 
><carlwestberg846@hotmail.com>, <vision2020@moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Patriot Act
>Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:36:04 -0800
>
>I got this quote from a friend today and thought it
>would be a good one to share with everyone.
>
>"Of course the people don't want war... That is understood. But... it's 
>always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a 
>fascist dictatorship, a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or 
>no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. 
>That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and 
>denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to 
>danger. It works the same in any country."
>
>- Hermann Goering at the Nuremberg trials, 1946
>from "Nuremberg Diary," by G. M. Gilbert
>
>
>Taze Fulford
>







>From: "Charles Fulford" <taze_fulford@hotmail.com>
>To: "Brad Neuman" <bradneuman@moscow.com>,   "'Carl Westberg'" 
><carlwestberg846@hotmail.com>, <vision2020@moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Patriot Act
>Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:36:04 -0800
>
>I got this quote from a friend today and thought it
>would be a good one to share with everyone.
>
>"Of course the people don't want war... That is understood. But... it's 
>always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a 
>fascist dictatorship, a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or 
>no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. 
>That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and 
>denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to 
>danger. It works the same in any country."
>
>- Hermann Goering at the Nuremberg trials, 1946
>from "Nuremberg Diary," by G. M. Gilbert
>
>
>Taze Fulford
>


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