[Vision2020] why are we here?

[Bill London]

Just when I am wondering if this list (with Douglas Stambler, Tony Brown, et al)
had descended into the realm of daily soap opera...then along comes a posting like
this one from Mark Rounds that reminds me of the impact and purpose this list does
have.
BL

Mark Rounds wrote:

> There have been a number of questions asked.  It is true that none of them
> have been specifically addressed to the City Council, they were addressed in
> very much the same manner as were the questions you did respond to.  I hope
> we aren't getting into a hair splitting contest here.
>
> Several folks asked about the purpose of this ordinance.  You did say that
> it was for the Council to respond to.  I take it that has has at least been
> passed on?
>
> Others that were asked were as follows:
>
> Bill London asked the following questions:
>
> If the council passes this ordinance, will the vendors at the Tuesday
> Grower's Market at the Moscow Food Co-op parking lot be cited if they do
> not get an expensive permit?
>
> What about the vendors at the more unorganized events at East City Park,
> like the HempFest?
>
> What is the problem this ordinance is designed to solve?
>
> Debbie Gray asked the following question:
>
> Slap me if I'm wrong but I am guessing that these activities already have
> a valid concession agreement and that these activities are NOT what the
> target is. More importantly, does this include people peddling/vending
> topless carwashes?
>
> John Danahy asked the following questions:
>
> The first and foremost important question should be:
>
> Why do this??
>
> Is the goal to stop something someone considers bad from happening?  If so
> what and why?
>
> Is the goal to make money for the city??
> If so, why?
>
> Is the goal to regulate?  Again, Why??
>
> Granted this is only a draft ordinance, and granted I only gave it a
> cursory reading, but it seems to me that under the wording as stated in
> the draft, every individual Girl Scout will have to be registered, and
> provide proof of non-profit status, before selling cookies door to door.
> I certainly do not see this as needed, unless this is another example of
> an ordinance that the city council expects to be "selectively enforced".
>
> Sunil Ramalingam asked the following question:
>
> So the folks who sell crafts, photographs, clothes, etc., items that are not
> fruits, vegetables or farm or garden products at the Farmers Market would be
> subject to the ordinance?  What about prepared food, such as the excellent
> grilled beef?
>
> Don Coombs had the following statement:
>
> To follow up on Walter's post, there are many things sold at
> Farmers' Market that are not fruits, vegetables and farm or
> garden products. I trust at some point whoever is pushing
> this ordinance will let us know why we need it.
>
> Janesta Sullivan asked the following question:
>
> What is the revenue from this going to be used for?
>
> I asked about the restriction in hours and days of business clause.  Does
> this cause a legal problem when other local businesses do not have those
> sorts of restrictions?
>
> Also in my reading of this document, it will make trade shows, gun shows and
> things like the Home and Garden subject to that ordinance.  Is that the intent?
>
> Folks if I misquoted or fumbled the cut and paste, please correct me, but
> this is just a quick look at what I still have left on my box that I haven't
> deleted.  A full list can be found in the archives of this listserve that
> are readily available.
>
> I hope this helps.  I am really trying to be supportive here.
>
> Mark Rounds
>
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