[Vision2020] re: liquor liability

Dale Courtney dale@courtneys.us
Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:14:48 -0800


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Sunil,
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I'm really not having a bad day; nor was that meant to be angry in tone. =
Did
is come across so? My reference to "Mr. Lawyer" was due to the "from" =
line
on his email.=20
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I wasn't clear that when I was referring to a "constitutional right" to
education that I was referring to the Federal Constitution.=20
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I'm a States-rights advocate. If a State wants to support government
schools, that's a different issue from the Federal Government from doing =
so
(notice that such wording is not anywhere to be found in our federal
constitution).=20
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Having said the above, it's still not the State's jurisdiction to be in =
the
schooling business. Neither is it their job to ensure that the wheat =
gets
shipped safely to the mills; or that WinCo is well stocked in cat food.=20
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Best,
Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] =
On
Behalf Of Sunil Ramalingam
Sent: Wednesday, 12 February, 2003 14:29
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] re: liquor liability



Dale Courtney ends his last post in response to Duncan Palmatier
(venomously? angrily? having a bad day?) with this question:

"But then again, the right to a government education is guaranteed in =
our
constitution, isn't it Mr. Lawyer?"

I don't know if "Mr. Lawyer" is intended as an insult, but I am a lawyer =
and
not ashamed of it, so I'll help him out. I won't even charge him.=20

As you've noticed by now Dale, you live in Idaho, and we have our own
Constitution.  Article IX, Section 1 provides,

"LEGISLATURE TO ESTABLISH SYSTEM OF FREE SCHOOLS. The stability of a
republican form of government depending mainly upon the intelligence of =
the
people, it shall be the duty of the legislature of Idaho, to establish =
and
maintain a general, uniform and thorough system of public, free common
schools."

So to answer your question, Yes, the right to a government education is
guaranteed in our constitution.  But you knew that, right?

Yours pro bono,

Sunil





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size=3D2>Sunil,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D188430823-12022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I'm=20
really not having a bad day; nor was that meant to be angry in tone. Did =
is come=20
across so? My reference to "Mr. Lawyer" was due to the "from" line on =
his email.=20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D188430823-12022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D188430823-12022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
wasn't clear that when I was referring to a "constitutional right" to =
education=20
that I was referring to the Federal Constitution. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D188430823-12022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D188430823-12022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I'm a=20
States-rights advocate. If a State wants to support government schools, =
that's a=20
different issue from the Federal Government from doing so (notice that =
such=20
wording is <U>not</U> anywhere to be found in our federal constitution). =

</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D188430823-12022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D188430823-12022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Having=20
said the above, it's still not the State's jurisdiction to be in the =
schooling=20
business. Neither is it their job to ensure that the wheat gets shipped =
safely=20
to the mills; or that WinCo is well stocked in cat food. =
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D188430823-12022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D188430823-12022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D188430823-12022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Dale</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] <B>On =
Behalf=20
  Of </B>Sunil Ramalingam<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 12 February, 2003=20
  14:29<BR><B>To:</B> vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Vision2020]=20
  re: liquor liability<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <P>Dale Courtney&nbsp;ends his last post in response to Duncan =
Palmatier=20
  (venomously?&nbsp;angrily? having a bad day?) with this =
question:</P></DIV>
  <P>"But then again, the right to a government education is guaranteed =
in our=20
  constitution, isn't it Mr. Lawyer?"</P>
  <P>I don't know if "Mr. Lawyer" is intended as an insult, but I am a =
lawyer=20
  and not ashamed of it, so I'll help him out.&nbsp;I won't even charge =
him.=20
</P>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <P>As you've noticed by now Dale, you live in Idaho, and we have our =
own=20
  Constitution.&nbsp; Article IX, Section 1 provides,</P>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <P>"LEGISLATURE TO ESTABLISH SYSTEM OF FREE SCHOOLS. The stability of =
a=20
  republican form of government depending mainly upon the intelligence =
of the=20
  people, it shall be the duty of the legislature of Idaho, to establish =
and=20
  maintain a general, uniform and thorough system of public, free common =

  schools."</P>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <P>So to answer your question, Yes, the right to a government =
education is=20
  guaranteed in our constitution.&nbsp; But you knew that, right?</P>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <P>Yours pro bono,</P>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <P>Sunil<BR><BR><BR></P>
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