[Vision2020] Don't Blame Nader! (was Stop corporate tax dodging)

Ted Moffett ted_moffett@hotmail.com
Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:39:35 +0000


Mike and ALL:

"Prince Ralph" and "King George?"  This sort of language from you, Mike, 
appears to verge on an attitude of cynical "labeling" of people, that I 
thought you opposed?  Mike's post on Nader is attached at the bottom.

Nader tried to create a real alternative in American politics.  For this I 
think he should be praised, and for all the hard work he has done over the 
years for numerous causes.  Do I think that there are moral complexities in 
his 2000 Presidential candidacy that are troubling given that he hurt Gore's 
chances?  Yes.

But the voters put Bush into office, along with the astonishing unlawful 
conduct in the election in Florida 2000 and the US Supreme court's shameful 
intervention, not Nader.  Gore really did win the election, both the popular 
vote and the electoral college: some very sober and factual analyses of the 
2000 Gore v. Bush vote in Florida indicate that according to the intent of 
the voters who actually went to the polls, Gore won by about 20,000 votes in 
that state.

A part of the US Democracy died on that day.

I have a tomes worth of research on the Gore v. Bush 2000 election in 
Florida:

The illegal voter registration purge list slanted towards minority voters, 
the Martin and Seminole County Republican led felonious illegal tampering 
with absentee ballots, the illegal butterfly ballot in Palm Beach County, 
the out of state Republican mob sent in by House Republican Tom Delay to 
harass the court ordered recount in Miami-Dade County inside the very 
building where the recount was being done, the fact that the first lawfully 
mandated automatic recount was NEVER DONE in several counties in Florida (in 
fact none of the lawfully mandated recounts was ever completed!), the 
cutting of the budget to run the election in Florida when Secretary of State 
Katherine Harris's led branch of the Florida government overseeing elections 
was warned a large voter turnout was in store, largely due to minority 
voters (guess who they favored?), voting machinery in poor heavily minority 
areas being in disrepair, and so forth...

These numerous instances of illegal and undemocratic conduct in the manner 
that election was carried out should be the target of peoples wrath, NOT 
Ralph Nader!

Ted

Mike Curley curley@turbonet.com
Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:13:54 -0700

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<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>What a paradox, or is it simply hypocr=
isy?  He rails against
that which he helped most to perpetuate.  All good
conservatives and Republicans should attend this meeting
and praise Prince Ralph for the invaluable assistance he
gave King George by insisting that there was really no
difference between him and Al Gore.  There are certainly
many reasons that Al Gore is not the President, but Prince
Ralph can claim a primary role (no pun intended).  And
while you are there, thank him for the war in Iraq and
wherever else the USA may next invade in the name of
weapons of mass destruction and terrorism.

Mike Curley







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